"I will be positioned in the same position by 2027," Sir Keir Starmer stated, adding that if the interview proceeded smoothly, he might welcome us into his official residence for a follow-up chat next year.
There is never any downtime for those in the top job. Shortly before our chat started, Starmer had been in calls with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and working to understand exactly what had transpired in Venezuela, where his close ally, US President Donald Trump, had recently attacked and captured its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
When the discussion, which was far more extended than normal, had concluded, Maduro had been formally accused in New York.
With the year commences, the Prime Minister appears to have had a degree of a reboot. Maybe even just a little relaxation with loved ones at Chequers, the prime minister's official country residence.
That certainly seemed to have resulted in better spirits than at the sluggish conclusion of 2025, a terrible annus horribilis for him.
But are he and his colleagues being unrealistic if they believe his standing are set to improve?
The harsh reality for the leader is that many of his fellow MPs believe he's ineffective at his job. A faction of them would sooner take a risk and remove him this year.
However Sir Keir was dismissing such talk in the interview on Saturday morning.
Repeatedly he stated he'd be "judged at the general election", insisting no one would take his electoral mandate from him – despite the fact that the most effective strategy of halting Nigel Farage and Reform UK getting to No 10 may be for Labour to change leader.
"This is the fight of our generation and I aim to guide the party," he affirmed.
The challenge for the PM is that he will be assessed well ahead of then – in a major set of elections in May across the UK. He sought to contend, maybe excessively, that they are about who runs councils, and who runs the devolved administrations in Holyrood or Cardiff – and unrelated to Westminster.
True – up to a point. But even though he may not want to concede it, No 10 will be judged by those elections too.
This did not stop Sir Keir stating that there were no scenario under which he would walk away, should a his MPs challenged him for the job, if those elections prove catastrophic for Labour.
He attempted to rationalise his unpopularity by saying the electorate was reasonably eager for things to get better. He aimed to assure me, and the public, that 2026 would be distinct.
The economic situation would improve in the face of rising unemployment, he said, when policies the administration enacted during their first rocky year began to show results.
His central message is that in 2026 the country will "see an improvement".
The PM may have communicated with renewed vitality than I've seen from him for a some time – more relaxed, perhaps, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering pressure from within his own party for a more decisive strategy, with much more political vision, more dynamism, more speed and more immediacy, his explanations were familiar ones.
Given that he is in this much political peril, should he consider a new narrative?
No administration, and certainly not one that has been unpopular for an extended period, has everything its as desired.
The Prime Minister's problems are not only because governing is challenging, but because he and his team have made mistakes, including in the recent past.
The PM told me that he regretted saying he was "pleased" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an backlash when statements he'd made in the past – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Sir Keir blamed "the system" for not realising what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying not my fault.
And he is courting evident political perils as the year progresses. His close relationship with the US president entails a new jeopardy after Trump's military action on Venezuela.
Based on years of interviewing Sir Keir Starmer, a ex- human rights lawyer who opposed the war in Iraq, over a long period, the idea he would be at ease with these events seems unlikely.
He stated he was a "career-long proponent of international law" but the public "simply do not have the complete details at the moment".
Opponents demanded condemn it before we spoke. And the administration is expected to face more pressure to give an definitive view in Parliament in the coming days.
And there has always been growing desire in the Labour party to revisit some of the outcomes of Brexit.
The PM denies he's pursuing that, but his new specific plan to move closer with the European trading bloc – the giant economic European market – will probably elicit howls that he is breaking his vow never to try to reverse the results that flowed from Brexit.
A decision to align with more of the single market will delight some on his side of the party, but it is easy fodder for Reform and the Conservatives to
Elara Vance is a seasoned business analyst with over a decade of experience covering international markets and industrial transformations.